Case from our practice 01 · Vienna 9th district, Alsergrund
270 kg grand piano without a lift from the 1st floor
An old grand piano without a lift from the first floor: 170 centimetres long, around 270 kilos, an old building in the 9th district, one and a half floors of stairs, no lift, no ramp, no machine, two men. The customer wanted to get rid of it, he paid 540 euros including VAT and the landfill fee, and from the flat to the van it took less than half an hour.
The call was short. In a flat in the ninth district there is an old grand piano, and it has to go. Not sold, not moved, simply gone. We hear that often. A grand piano with Viennese action, the old design as it was built in Vienna until the early 20th century, is a beautiful heirloom for many families, but at some point it stands in the way. Someone moves, someone sells the flat, someone has died. What is left is an instrument of 270 kilos that nobody plays any more. The customer had two questions, and you would probably have them too: is a grand piano without a lift possible at all, one and a half floors up? And what does it cost? I said what I always say: send me photos.
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A look at the stairwell
The photos came by WhatsApp: the grand piano from the front and from the side, the flat door, the stairwell from above and from below, the landing, the front door. I do not need more. A Viennese old building usually has wide stone steps, a banister that can take something, and a landing where you can turn. That was exactly the case here. The grand piano was 170 centimetres long, that is a small grand, and at around 270 kilos a normal weight for this design. So I decided: no stair climber, no ramp, two men with a grand piano board and straps. And I will tell you honestly when that does not work: on a narrow spiral staircase, on three or four floors without a lift, or with a concert grand of over 400 kilos. Then the machine comes, and in the worst case the crane through the window. Not here. The customer had his fixed price the same day.
Photo from the customer by WhatsApp: the grand piano in the flat, before we arrived
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The day
On the day itself there were two of us. First the grand piano is put on its side in the flat: legs off, lyre off, lid secured, then you carefully tip it onto the grand piano board, a padded board with straps on which the grand lies on its edge and can be pushed. Two tension straps over it, tight, but not so tight that the case suffers. That took 15 minutes in the flat. Then the stairs. One above, one below, both with carrying straps over the shoulders, so that the weight does not hang in the arms but in the back and in the legs. Step by step, turned at the landing, further down. Seven, eight minutes for one and a half floors. No surprise, no graze on the wall, no scratch on the banister. Not because we were lucky, but because we had seen everything on the photos beforehand.
Photo: the grand piano on its edge, padded and strapped, on its way through the flat door
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Through the front door
Downstairs the long corridor with the old tiles, then the heavy iron door, then the street and the van. The grand piano is pushed into the van on the board and lashed down once more there. The customer stood in the doorway and watched. He did not have to carry anything, organise anything or call anyone. Less than half an hour after we had come in, the room was empty. The grand piano was then disposed of properly, that is part of the price with us.
Conclusion
What I want you to take away about a grand piano without a lift
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A grand piano without a lift is, up to about 170 centimetres, no reason for panic and no reason for a crane, not even over one and a half floors. Two people who do this every day, a board and good straps are enough, if the stairwell plays along.
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Whether it plays along can be seen on four or five photos. That is why we ask for photos and not for a viewing appointment, it saves you a day and us a trip.
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A grand piano that nobody wants any more is still 270 kilos that have to be carried properly. A scratch in the stairwell costs more in the end than the transport.
How insurance and liability work exactly, I explain on a page of its own. Link: insurance and liability, page to follow
What the customer asked about the grand piano without a lift
What does it cost to have a grand piano collected from the first floor without a lift in Vienna?
In this case 540 euros including VAT, as a fixed price from photos, landfill fee and disposal included. The price depends on the weight, on the floors and on the kind of staircase, so send us photos and you have a binding figure within 60 minutes.
Does a grand piano without a lift need a crane?
No. With one and a half floors, a normal old-building staircase and a length of 170 centimetres, a grand piano without a lift needs only two men with a grand piano board and carrying straps. A crane only becomes necessary when the grand piano does not fit through the stairwell.
How long does such a collection take?
Here 15 minutes in the flat and 7 to 8 minutes on the stairs. Including loading you are done in less than an hour.
Is the grand piano insured during the transport?
Yes, every transport with us is insured, and our business liability insurance covers damage to the stairwell. Details on the page about insurance and liability.
Do I have to prepare anything beforehand?
Only clear the way: sheet music, lamps and photos off the grand piano, rugs out of the corridor, front door open. We do everything else.
What happens to the grand piano after the collection?
It is disposed of properly. You do not have to take care of anything and you do not get a second invoice.
Send us photos of the instrument and of the stairwell
You get a fixed price within 60 minutes.
These photos help usThe grand piano from the front and from the side, the flat door, the stairwell from above and from below, the front door.
We collect pianos and grand pianos in all 23 Vienna districts, in an old building with a narrow staircase just as in a new building with a lift. Whether the instrument is being sold, moved or disposed of: we plan the way out of the flat in advance from your photos, so that nothing has to be improvised on the day itself.
For heavy instruments over 400 kilos, narrow spiral staircases and transports through the window we work with a stair climber and a crane. Every transport is insured, damage to the stairwell is covered by our business liability insurance.
In the inner districts we apply for the no-parking zone with the City of Vienna, so that the van can stand directly in front of the entrance. A grand piano without a lift then leaves the building considerably faster.
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